Kai...

Jan. 5th, 2012 06:14 am
[identity profile] dasaki.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
WHO: Kai or any of their many different character names.

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kai/

WHAT: A pay to enter art contest, $9

WHEN: Jan. 27th 2011

PROOF: Journal with the entrant names after the closing, they deleted the original contest journal months ago. http://i42.tinypic.com/34zelxu.png
Paypal transaction. http://i42.tinypic.com/2gtdw1j.png
Today's conversation. http://i44.tinypic.com/jr8qyc.png
'Refund' email. http://i41.tinypic.com/es563m.png

EXPLAIN: I entered a contest Kai ran about this time last year, it was $9 a person and anyone that didn't win still got featured in a group picture with one of their larger (macro) characters. I paid the $9, and I even covered the fees (or lack of, at that point gifts didn't take them yet), everything was going fine and I'd seen the winners pictures had been posted so I waited to see the group picture. It was posted about a month ago and I only saw it today, and I wasn't in it. So I posted on there asking why I wasn't there and got this in response; http://i44.tinypic.com/jr8qyc.png

Now I know I come off a bit hostile in this myself, but anyone that has dealt with Kai at all knows what kind of person they are and what kind of reputation they have. My 'public attack' was a single comment in a small IRC channel, which she was then lectured heavily by the owner of the channel after banning me for it.

After a long conversation during which a mutual friend acted as a middleman while she raged over it somewhere, I was finally given a 'refund' which was sent in CAD instead of the original USD that I paid, and I was made to pay the fees, causing it to come up a total of 98 cents short, over 10% of the total.

Overall a very bad experience and one that I do not wish to repeat. In short, if you value decent customers, stay away from Kai.

Edit: found the IRC logs after some time of digging.

http://www.privatepaste.com/02da40f222

Edit 2/update: Got home from work to find http://i43.tinypic.com/egondl.png in my inbox, best part is she's blocked me so I can't even ask what she's talking about.

Date: 2012-01-11 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tearor bloodwing (from livejournal.com)
Sadly this article was posted as an attempt to lash back at Kai after she had pulled Dasaki out of the comission. And although Kai is by no means innocent in this case the IRC logs have been editted to leave out the part where Dasaki purposely aggrovated Kai by telling her to her face that he does not respect her. As well it was only found out when Kai paid him back that Dasaki did not pay the paypal fee himself after all and instead it was taken from the sum she recieved as the payment was not sent as a gift but instead as a Payment Owed.

Although Kai may not be the easiest to get along with and is well known to fly off the handle when aggitated by others the only issue here is between Dasaki and Kai as the artist was properly paid for their services.

Kai may not be the friendliest of people but Dasaki has purposely sought revenge in this posting when he was given what was owed to him minus the fees that paypal took for itself and so this should be a non issue. Instead Dasaki seems to be seeking the last laugh with another passive agressive stab at someone who is very obviously easy to aggitate.

Date: 2012-01-11 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
It really doesn't matter what the OP said to Kai. She doesn't get to keep someone's money for nothing. Nothing said would have changed that.

Not that it would be 'okay' if the OP were being dishonest, of course.
Edited Date: 2012-01-11 05:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-12 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com
Actually that part IS in the logs. Line 18. If you have proof that there was any editing then provide it, though bear in mind any amount of goading still does not excuse Kai's behaviour.

As for the subject of paypal fees, it is against their TOS to send or receive funds as a gift when it is actually part of a transaction. As such, if Kai has done this then her account could be shut down. Dasaki was entirely in the right to not send it as a gift.

I get that you want to defend your friend but you're not helping Kai's case by coming in here throwing accusations around without proof and spouting uninformed nonsense while attacking the OP.

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