Advice post

[familliaraver.livejournal.com]

Never thought I would post here! This is the most amazing epic debacle I've ever seen in my life, and I need some advice. Technically I got burned out of money I was supposed to be paid, but more importantly at this point an entire convention of people are being burned out of money. I would like to leave names out for now, I don't want to put people on blast but I can later depending on what happens.

Can someone open a paypal dispute on an intangible object they paid for past the dispute period, like 9 months ago? If it's a large group of people *100-200 people* that open up a dispute at the same time will it freeze their paypal or will it not matter because they bought tickets in some cases a very long time ago. The fear is them taking all the money and running and the goal is to stop it.

The deal is a convention that was supposed to be happening next weekend was cancelled. A week ago. How/why/who was at fault for the cancellation is up to interpretation. The fact is they didn't fill the room block the said they would. Eventually I will encourage everyone involved to post an A_B on these people for the sake of future dealers/artists/attendees.

Any advice I can take to these poor people who I'm pretty sure will have to fight tooth and nail to see any money back would be really appreciative.

Comments

[zyumi.livejournal.com]

I think at this point it was a good thing you came forward about this situation. I'm starting to fear that things will have to get legal before the situation is addressed. The only reason that the people thus far have refunds is because of Pay Pal and not Ultimacon directly.

I can tell you that the con-chair is planning on going to a large Texas anime con this month, and I worry that her refusal to address this situation before this next con will be very detrimental to her. You put in a lot of time and effort into a con that never took place, and I can understand your frustration and anger about the situation. I do think that if the situation isn't resolved, it might be a good idea to release the name of the con. As for the thousands of badges that are still in your position, I'd be interested to see what you come up with to utilize them.

[familliaraver.livejournal.com]

Ha, it doesn't matter if she chooses to address the situation because the situation will address her, and it is. People are getting refunds; even people who paid past the time frame you supposedly can get refunds. Paypal actually will just keep refunding people and her account will keep going in the red and they will freeze anything attached to the paypal account. When people talk to paypal about refunds and after a month the seller doesn't address the problem they are refunded. I know this because, well, I just do. I can't tell you how I know that I would rather just say it's heresay..it's not like I can see her transactions or something lol. How could I possibly see those?

I don't know why she chose to fire her entire staff. Firing the entire staff doesn't take their name off contracts. I don't know how she made it through that certain Texas convention without being burned at the stake. I guess that there is either enough people that care about her or enough people who don't care at all. I also know she is a good person. Sending out sporadic e-mails to artists and attendees at random isn't really cutting it, or trying to stall everyone into not asking for their money back. Whatever.