[identity profile] frostfoot.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
WHO:  Marbles Skunk 
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/marblesbravetail/

http://www.facebook.com/MarblesBravetail


WHERE:  Over FA and, briefly over Facebook. 

WHAT:  A pre-made Coatimundi Character in which she was selling with another character,. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6935026/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3383844/



The beginning of the transaction: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7830188/



WHEN: Roughly Two months ago, I saw Marbles was selling a few characters, one of them 'Tori', a coatimundi, caught my eye and I inquired about a price, which is where the transaction started (on the submission advertising the character.) 

Submission page offering character for sale -http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7830188/ (Our initial conversation can be seen in the comments.) 

Screencap(s) of comments :

1:) http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k590/Serallis/marblesbeginning.png

2.) http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k590/Serallis/marblesbeginning2.png

-Then I paid on May 5th, 2012.
Paypal screenshot:  http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k590/Serallis/1111marblespaymentpaypal.png

I waited for a while, then a few things happened (unrelated life things) and I ended up forgetting all about the character purchase until very recently, last tuesday; (July 2nd) 

I decided to give her a friendly poke/reminder on facebook to check in. 

A day passed, nothing, she had been active on facebook, 'liking' things and made a comment to someone. Feeling worried that I was being blown off, I sent a second poke that night, this time voicing my concerns, this is where the situation escalates; 

1.) Screencap 1/2 .)  http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k590/Serallis/marblesscreenshot1-1.png

2.) Screencap 2/2 ) http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k590/Serallis/marblesscreenshot2-1.png

As seen in the screenshot, I was met with attitude and swears and aggression. Despite being taken back, and a bit insulted, I tried to approach the situation as civil as possible. I decided there, by her attitude and failure to deliver initially, that I wanted a full refund, as I had not even used the character anyways.  She accused me of shorting her on an (unrelated) refund issued recently. I tried to explain a bit of why the payments ere either cents or a few dollars short (paypal fee.) She refunded me in full (17 usd) then on the note of "Fine I sent it back now leave me alone."

Although I was refunded in full after a bit of negotiating, I feel her behavior and attitude alone warrants a beware here. Very off putting in a transaction.  


PROOF:  (See above section.) 

EXPLAIN: (See above section, ) 

EDIT: Edited the screenshot links to hide involved parties (real) names
 




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Date: 2012-07-09 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerstin-orion.livejournal.com
Approved, but please censor out the person's real name from the PayPal screencap.

Date: 2012-07-09 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ducttapeninja.livejournal.com
... Wow, her first reply to you in that screencap is absolutely appalling. I'm really sorry you had to put up with that. I can't understand why she freaked out at you so bad in that Facebook thread, even. O.o

Her attitude's been absolutely rotten anyway, especially lately-- I'm surprised people are even willing to work with her at all. :/ Any time I've seen her around FA it's always been either grossly rude comments, insulting people, or just straight-up trying to pick fights with people over fursuits or something.

At the very least, it's good that you got your full refund in the end.

Date: 2012-07-09 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunhawk.livejournal.com
Whoa, talk about an inappropriately hostile reaction to your reasonable concerns and questions @_@ Beware indeed!

Date: 2012-07-09 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tunavoice.livejournal.com
WOW. What a horrible attitude. Beware well warranted. I'm very sorry you had to deal with this.

Date: 2012-07-09 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skittlewolf.livejournal.com
Wow. Hiatus or not, you still have to do what you owe people. :/

Date: 2012-07-09 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taasla.livejournal.com
Oh my gosh, no. No no, that's a terrible way to treat someone. Definitely avoiding her.

Date: 2012-07-09 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaulankris.livejournal.com
That reminds me! Does using the PP refund function fully refund the other person, including the fee? I think it does, but I've never used it before so I'm not sure (I was refunded by someone once but they sent it as a personal transaction to keep PayPal from touching it, I guess).

And sorry you had to go through that, I have no idea why she feels she has to be so hostile to everyone :(

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Date: 2012-07-09 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kohaku-chimaera.livejournal.com
Woah that is just...Bad. Why would anyone react that way to such a simple question?? D:
Is she still burned about being called out for sucking up to Rarakie or what? There's literally no excuse for that kind of behavior!

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Date: 2012-07-09 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genkigami.livejournal.com
Good Lord what's with the snippiness? I knew she had a bad attitude from how she treated people who dare questioned her god Rarakie but if this is how she treats customers she shouldn't have any.

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Date: 2012-07-09 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
Wait so this artist has had a history before of how she treats people? Though what did you mean by her god Rarakie?

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Date: 2012-07-09 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alex-dachshund.livejournal.com
As a former friend, I constantly had to put up with her behavior like this all the time. x__x I finally decided after she rudely snapped at me on the Rarakie review, to just stop being friends with her. I didn't know she acted like this to others too. It's really sad to hear.

Date: 2012-07-10 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marblestheskunk.livejournal.com
Alex, it really hurts me that you would say this, because it is totally untrue.
I was ALWAYS nice to you, aside from that one incident. I did everything I could for you, I gave you a ride to fwa, tried to offer you one and a room for az, and always listened to you and tried to help when you were upset. I was never mean to you alex. Yes I snapped at you one time, and I sent you a message apologizing which is all I can do honestly.

Date: 2012-07-09 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jibacoil.livejournal.com
Isn't selling a character design something that doesn't involve additional work for the artist anyway?

Unless I missed some info, all she would've had to do was confirm that she received the payment and given the purchaser and something along the lines of "Okay, the character's yours now.", which makes the attitude even more mind-boggling, IMO.

Date: 2012-07-09 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xisidereal.livejournal.com
If I'm reading it right, it was also mailing the ref to the new owner, which never happened.

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Date: 2012-07-09 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mgsfriedchicken.livejournal.com
Wow, that's rude. Not dealing with her!

Date: 2012-07-09 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
Kerrrr blocked~!

Date: 2012-07-09 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roxiexcore.livejournal.com
Absolutely appalling. :/

Date: 2012-07-09 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candyfizzle.livejournal.com
I wish she hadn't have treated you like that. You seem really nice.

I'm sorry. :/

Date: 2012-07-09 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatonejackal.livejournal.com
Oh lordy this girl...avoid at all costs! I swear she's just nothing but bad news. She was talked about during the whole "Rarakie fursuit drama" for being a huuuggeee white knight, but that's a whole nother story. I'm so sorry you had to go deal with that. Maybe this will show people she's a nasty person.

Beware well warned, and blocked! (I don't even block people too, that's how bad she is)

Date: 2012-07-11 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marblestheskunk.livejournal.com
I'm really not a nasty person. :/

But I guess you will never get the chance to get to know me for who I really am.

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Date: 2012-07-09 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viothefoxbird.livejournal.com
I've had a run-in with her also:

She commissioned me for a simple $25 fursuit reference (CLEARLY labeled with many examples: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1NLHU0zUfVFT71ju0qiDXc_Um-_3aZLdhctOGBogAr1c ). I completed it quickly and sent it to her, and she threw a fit saying it was low-quality compared to my other art, she bashed it and demanded a full refund, even though it was 100% completed and looked just like the examples shown...

For some reason she was expecting a full detailed reference like the one I did for my boyfriend's skunk character: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7889585/ ? Even though she should have known what she was getting.
She definitely has an attitude problem; very unfortunate :(
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Date: 2012-07-09 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taasla.livejournal.com
It seems to be a thing with her to attempt to get refunds after work is completed.

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Date: 2012-07-09 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariakitty.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness, there's no excuse for anyone to behave like that. She had plenty of time to ship the ref sheet, it's not like it's difficult to get to the post office. (Unless she can't drive, but that's something that she should have been mentioned during the transaction imo)


Date: 2012-07-09 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] familliaraver.livejournal.com
Recently she had commissioned me for a partial (I don't usually do things like that, don't have a TOS or anything but I thought her a friend) and spent about 40 of it on materials when she tells me she lost her job and would have issues paying the rest. I offered to refund what she gave me since I had not bought fur and I felt bad for her and ate the cost of what I had paid for.

2 days later she announced she was getting suit work done by someone else.

Never again.

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Date: 2012-07-09 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marblestheskunk.livejournal.com
I am sorry I was so rude.
I explained in my hiatus journal that I was not on my meds, which are detrimental to my normalcy and me not to act crazy.
I really don't want everyone to hate me here, and I apologize for snapping at you, I was just so upset with everything that was going on, that I really didn't want to talk to anyone.

All I can do is apologize and hope I don't get attacked.
I already refunded you, which is all I can do for the business aspect, but yeah, I'm sorry.

Date: 2012-07-09 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sintocat.livejournal.com
Honestly, for the future, if you have not taken your medication, I would suggest just not getting on the internet. If being off your medication means you snap at anyone who talks to you it's not worth it.

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Date: 2012-07-09 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistresswolf.livejournal.com
wow... How ironic that this person is a mod of a trusted artists group. Beware well warranted. What a terrible attitude! Hard to believe that people act like that!

Date: 2012-07-10 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharpecostumes.livejournal.com
It is good to see Marbles being very calm here as you both (Marbles and the OP) are handling the situation very well. While I cannot speak for any ill attitude that I have encountered with Marbles, I can say that she can be very sweet. It sounds like it was a combination of real life stress and a few other smaller things that built up into one big firework.

I'm sorry that you had to encounter such replies from her, but I commend you both on your current attitude <3

Date: 2012-07-11 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marblestheskunk.livejournal.com
I want to make a final statement.

I want you all to know what this was...
This was me lashing out at a friend because I was worked up over a lot of drama and other horrible things going on in my life. Also the fact that I wasn't on my meds didn't help.
I am not a 'nasty, mean, horrible' person. And for all of you to sit and judge me based on a post is silly. You have never met me, and a lot of you a shunning ever getting to know me just because of this.


Yes I made a mistake, I am human, it happens.
I'm sure most, if not all of you have lashed out at someone and didn't mean it before, and regretted it after. The only difference is, you were not posted on a public blog for people to say terrible things about you based on one thing you had done wrong.

I have apologized and I'm pretty sure me and the op are on good terms now.
But please realise people, everyone makes mistakes, everyone has there extremely human moments of imperfection. Its not right to throw someone out to the dogs because of a silly fight.

That is how you know who your true friends are. Friends will deal with your occasional lashing out, let you cool down and the world goes on. They don't throw you out to the dogs to be ridiculed and hurt by a bunch of strangers.


Anyways, thats that.
Hopefully some of you will think about what I have said before jumping to conclusions and judging others in the future.

Date: 2012-07-11 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genkigami.livejournal.com
You were doing fine until you started leaving guilt trippy "DONT JUDGE MEEEE"and "IM ONLY HUMAN" comments and posted this passive aggressive manifesto.

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Date: 2012-07-12 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
If the recent passive aggressive post didn't give me a reason to never 'get to know' her, and make this beware even more valid, her journal on Fa about being on here sure did. She is once again not taking responsibility for herself, and blaming the OP instead of her less then stellar attitude.
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3644900/#cid:27503984

Date: 2012-07-12 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ducttapeninja.livejournal.com
I don't understand this mindset at all. She's completely missing the point of why she was posted here in the first place, using excuses to make herself the victim... And I really, really wish she would stop pulling the "You don't know me" and "Yeah but my real friends think I'm great" cards. They really aren't helping her make her case.

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Date: 2012-07-12 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcticious.livejournal.com
This is an unfortunate example of people who come back into the post and shoot themselves in the foot. Thank you OP for posting this, even with all the drama it caused.

Date: 2012-07-12 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ducttapeninja.livejournal.com
^Seriously. She was doing so well, until she felt the need to come in and start doing... Whatever the heck she thinks she's doing.

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