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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

WHO: absinthe stellary

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/stellary/

WHAT: 4 full colour, fullbody pictures (1 is completed) and 1 flat colour bust. traded for 2 shirts totalling 42 dollars.

WHEN: Originally commissioned June 2011, problems started 3 months later.

PROOF: http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk7/fowolf321/?action=view&current=page1.png

http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk7/fowolf321/?action=view&current=page2.png

http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk7/fowolf321/?action=view&current=page3.png


EXPLAIN: Commissioned her, at the time her paypal account was closed. So we traded art for shirts. She is great to deal with right up untill she gets paid. Then the real fun begins. She has already stated many times that she does not care about artist beware as it paints an unfair picture of her. Well, I suggest to anyone reading this, dont fall for it. Find another artist!


Edit: I have since been put on her block list on FA, so looks like my refund or art will be quickly coming........
Edit: hmm, not sure what this giant space down here is about, I can not delete it......

Comments

[shukivengeance.livejournal.com]

I dont really think that those who are criticizing the OP's reaction are on Stellary's side per se. The general gist is that the beware is valid against her but that one commment is so blunt and cold that it prompted an emotional response from some people.

Both sides have a point really, I can understand OP's frustration as I've had situations like this myself but let's be realistic, handling someone who has (apparently) had such a grave personal tragedy happen to them, in such an aggressive manner, was never going to help the situation.

Of course it's unreasonable to think that the OP should have to force themselves to care but you know, it wouldn't have hurt to fake it a little bit ("I'm sorry for your loss, I'd like to know when you will be able to work on my commission.") or even just have refrained from waving the "I don't give a fuck" stick in her face ("I've been waiting a long time for my art, when you're able to produce some I'd like mine asap").

Saying what they did the way they did came across as intentionally abrasive, and that's what people have been reacting to. Comments like "If my father died right now, you would not care..... If your father died right now, I would not care....." are honestly not helping anyone's opinion of them either.

Like I said at the start, beware's valid but OP's conduct was far from flawless.

[aerospiritual.livejournal.com]

I don't know- it's one thing to be dealing with the death of a family member and obviously dealing with it, and entirely another to have been taking and completing commissions during that time and then whipping out that excuse months after the fact, when someone who has been backlogged, has inquired about their art.

Had Stellary not been drawing for herself on top of taking on new clients during the time where she alleges she was grieving, then the OP was pretty cold and unfeeling.

But the fact of the matter is, is that she wasn't; she was doing new art and taking in new money. Her excuse wasn't "I haven't been working on commissions due to the death of my father", it was "I haven't been working on YOUR commission due to the death of my father." Which has a very, very different context, especially when its coming from someone who is notorious for pulling out a myriad of excuses as to why she can't complete what she's obligated to do.

[mekania.livejournal.com]

I just have a problem with people telling the OP they should care more, or fake concern. Saying you don't support Stellary is all well and good but when things like that are said it makes it much harder for people to come forward when someone is doing them wrong.

When artists who are posted here take it to their journals to post that they have, for example, a "greedy impatient commissioner who is starting trouble because they were demanding stuff when I was having a hard time!!"

The comments almost *every* time has something like "fuck that commissioner, how could they not care that you are going through _____? Your life is way more important than some art!!! Screw them!" and it frustrates me every time.

I never thought I would see comments like that here but I guess there's a first time for everything. It's shaming people for wanting what they paid for in a reasonable amount of time. This is a business transaction and if you treat your customers with respect and let them know about delays, they will be much more willing to give you some slack but you are not entitled to it. If a customer is unhappy about you putting off their commission for personal reasons, that is their right. Refund them.

[shukivengeance.livejournal.com]

I don't really see how pointing out that being nasty isn't an effective way of dealing with someone is the same as saying "fuck that commissioner, how could they not care that you are going through _____? Your life is way more important than some art!!! Screw them!" but okay.

It's just that from what I've seen, and transactions I've experienced myself, even when you're frustrated and things are going sour that it really doesn't hurt to be civil.

[mekania.livejournal.com]

And this is where I think we can just agree to disagree because I don't equate not showing enough concern with being nasty.

[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

where have I been nasty? ever?
blunt? sure,

[sintocat.livejournal.com]

I agree with you completely. If the artist had been honest and working on the commissions and then informed the commissioner about the delays, I expect he would be much more understanding. This is a business, and if the artist isn't showing their customer any respect after taking their money, why should the commissioner?