[identity profile] witchiebunny.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
My boyfriend, DOPR is currently dealing with a commissioner named Aekor.

The trouble started when my boyfriend quoted his price and Aekor stated that he'll pay based on what the end product is...if he feels the end product is worth less than what my boyfriend quoted, he'll pay less. If he feels it's worth more, he'll pay more.

My boyfriend, trying to be proactive did a sketch of one of the characters intending to put in the other in another position. Aekor stated that he didn't like the posiitoning and asked for a different position, which my boyfriend did.

Upon seeing the second sketch, Aekor criticised my boyfriend for not making the heads and neck "Draconian" enough and said that he wanted the heads and necks to look *exactly* like the way he himself does it.

My take on this is, if he wants it done exactly the way he himself does it, why did he commission my boyfriend?

Watch out for this commissioner, if he approaches you don't accept. I have a feeling he's trying to get free/very cheap art out of my boyfriend. (This is a fully colored picture, btw.))

ETA: I've told my boyfriend myself that I think he needs to get out of this commission and that this Aekor person is really doing things wrong, but he's decided to go on with the commission anyway, so...

Date: 2006-05-06 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-snappy-wolf.livejournal.com
If he came off as troublesome at the begining ( I consider the statement of payment to be just that) then I'd have just broke off the transaction at that or requested full payment up front.. If he's unwilling to pay what the artist quotes then let him go somwhere else, I'd tell your BF to get out of that commission right now, before he gets burned.

Date: 2006-05-06 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go--banana.livejournal.com
The trouble started when my boyfriend quoted his price and Aekor stated that he'll pay based on what the end product is...

Should have ended right there. If he won't pay your boyfriend's intended amount, then why friggin' pay? Why consider he's worthy enough if you're not willing to pay his written price? It should have been a solid amount that your boyfriend or both of them agreed on. I'm sorry, the guy must have ball sacs for brains.

Date: 2006-05-06 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aaaamory.livejournal.com
I would never draw anything for someone who would base what they pay on how it turns out. That just sets folks up for getting caught up in something very, very bad. Stepping into a contract without even negotiating price and services beforehand, as one of those TV Court judges would say, "Darwinism demands that you should not still be standing here today." The commissioner should already have an idea of how the art will turn out if he did his research and looked at some of your boyfriend's art.

Date: 2006-05-06 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaily.livejournal.com
Personally I think it's rather dumb to do commission work for someone who announces he's going to pay less if he thinks the work isn't up to par. That just screams "He has no intention of paying at all." to me or maybe will give me 10, 15 bucks and will tell me to get on my knees and thank him for it because the art isn't worth 10 bucks and he's being soooo generous.

You need to convince your BF to stop the commission, finish the sketch the way he sees fit and sell it on Furbid. After banning this guy's account from bidding ofcourse.

Date: 2006-05-06 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiercereaper.livejournal.com
It sounds a lot like that chick in the last post. Yay, new trend.

Date: 2006-05-07 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaily.livejournal.com
I have no idea where people get the idea that they can order (custom) items and then not pay.

Date: 2006-05-06 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaochi.livejournal.com
Dittos Dittos Dittos

This commissioner has a deliriously bad attitude.

Not worth the grief.

Just

Not

Worth

It.

In any event, best wishes to your boyfriend.

Date: 2006-05-06 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gymnopedie.livejournal.com
If he wants to go on with this commission, and that guy sounds like he's going to break his end of the deal, tell him this:

DO NOT do this commission without signing a CONTRACT stating the price they had originally agreed on, number of sketches that he can get away with before the final piece, deadline of the work.

anyone with that much need to cause problems by wanting to drop the price every time he doesn't like something, needs to sign a contract to keep your bf from ending up doing work for next to nothing. That guy sounds like he'll try to find ANYthing to point out and say "I don't like this, I'm taking off 50 dollars."

Date: 2006-05-06 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gymnopedie.livejournal.com
if the guy doesn't want to go into a binding contract, then he's not worth the time and effort of your BF

Date: 2006-05-06 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursulav.livejournal.com
I wouldn't take the commission.

Date: 2006-05-06 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaily.livejournal.com
She's a pro, listen to her.

Date: 2006-05-06 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dinogrrl.livejournal.com
I agree with the others. Tell your boyfriend to end this NOW. This is not going to end well for him in any way, and it'll only tell this Aekor dude that what he's doing is all right, which is obviously is NOT.

Date: 2006-05-06 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skulldog.livejournal.com
Smacks of the old ClaxCanis saga. Yeah, anyone who won't pay an artists qoute = Lamxor.

Date: 2006-05-07 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caelum.livejournal.com
Uh-uh. The customer doesn't need to be the one deciding the worth of the artists' work. That way lies danger. You don't go into a shop and say "You make me this dress and I'll go wear it for a week. If it's any good, I'll pay you what I think it's worth."

The producer determines the cost of the product. Buyer gets to decide if he wants to part with the money to have it. End of (vastly simplified) story.

Date: 2006-05-07 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celtic-tiger.livejournal.com
Uh, if he feels it isn't worth the price? 0_o No no no.

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