Commissoner Beware: Dante_Rage_Wolfington-Howling

[lovelesskiax.livejournal.com]

EDIT: Updated with his new FA account, replaced the last screen-shot with a more readable version.

WHO: Dante_Rage_Wolftington-Howling

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/danteragewolfington-howling/ (abandoned)
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/danteragewolfington/ (new account)
http://danteragewolfington.deviantart.com/

WHAT: Harassment, threats, and attempts at free art

WHEN: They first commented on my free pantsu icon raffle, on May 17th. He has left his FA account and has promised not to contact me since July 3rd.

PROOF: I will put with the explanation, to hopefully help you follow better. 

EXPLAIN: For the past few months, Dante has been annoying me. He was a bit annoying during my pantsu icon raffle, where he kept mentioning that his birthday was soon after the raffle ended. 

Him entering: http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/raffle1.png

Comment on raffle reminder: 

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/raffle2.png

I personally found his continuous mention of his birthday to be sort of a pressure, even if he didn't intend. I just assume most people wouldn't mention it at all if they didn't want to put pressure on the artist.

May 31st, after the raffle had ended, he noted me. I was completely confused at first at what he was asking for, but after clarification, he was breaking one of the rules of my TOS: I must be paid before work. Here he's trying to order a commission and promising to pay later because right now he doesn't have a paypal: 

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/attemptatfreecommission.png

I don't have screen shots of this because the shout got bumped off my page (I only felt the need to make this article after tonight, so all caps are recent), but in it he asked if he could commission me for a pantsu icon, even though they were journal only. The fact that he was aware of it, and wanted one even though he had no paypal, really stung me bad.

July 19th, after I had answered someone else's question about my future pricing on reference sheets, he comes to the deluxe reference sheet I did for my fursona and commented: 

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/reffsheetalltogether.jpg

I put him on my blacklist then. He's the first and hopefully the last. 

June 22nd, he came to my page and apologized. I accepted, and he then asked what being on the blacklist is (I only have a small portion of this, as shouts got bumped off):

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/askingaboutblacklist.png

Then, on June 28th, he came back to my page and asked to get off the blacklist again:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/askingtobeoffblacklist.png

I replied "No.", but he wiped his shouts before I could grab it. But at this point I was more than fed up with his whining.

Today, July 3rd, I posted a journal opening up my pantsu icons again. He came in, whining about how he wanted one but he was on the blacklist. Then he tried to get someone to commission me for him, which I did not want:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/pantsujournalcomments.jpg

He sent me a note, and well...Here's the notes (long read): 

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/notesalltogether.jpg

After this I was absolutely stunned, and felt making an A_B post was necessary so other's wouldn't have trouble with him as well. But I was unaware of weather I had to have actual, money exchanging business to post him on here (I couldn't really find anything about it on here, sorry if it was somewhere and I didn't realize) so I made a journal on FA asking for advice. Here's how the journal basically went (black boxes used to hide screenames and conversations not relevant to the situation, also screenshot thanks to someone on FA. Journal is also deleted as of now, but I have un-censored screenshot still saved): 

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3254/questionaboutmakinganab.jpg

And it ended there. He wiped his account, and I'm making this post. I hope people can watch out for him, because this was not the best experience. 

Comments

Re: Beware of Dante

[kerstin-orion.livejournal.com]

I am screening this comment because it contains personal information and many claims about behavior and incidents without offering proof.

If you wish to make a beware regarding your experience with this person as it relates to commissioned art, you can use our report template found here: http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/432731.html

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

As Kerstin said, you may make your own beware if you wish.

Screening.

Re: Beware of Dante

[lovelesskiax.livejournal.com]

I highly encourage you to make your own beware!
I'd also like if you'd note me on FA, at LovelessKiax. There are some suspicions I have about Dante that I'd like confirmed, and you seem to know him fairly well.

(frozen) Please remove him

[dantewolfington.livejournal.com]

I was informed by my roommate that someone I've had past mistakes with reported him here to A-B, I check and yes it is here.

I ask that you please remove Fang from this, as me and him are two different people, if the user on FA that reported him wishes to make their OWN A-B on him, they may try, but he has done nothing wrong....

I ask again, please remove my friend, I will be reporting this to a mod.

(frozen) Re: Please remove him

[lovelesskiax.livejournal.com]

I will only remove this until I have solid evidence that Fang is a completely separate person, or if a mod asks me to.

You are a minor, and as far as I remember from our notes live with your parents, so a 75 year old man could not be your room mate. You also type the same, and "Fang" contacted another artist you harassed in the past.

I will believe it is you and not take it down unless I get some solid evidence, or AB asks it to be taken off.

(frozen) Re: Please remove him

[dantewolfington.livejournal.com]

I move in with him with in the last few months, he has helped with with alot so far in getting SOME parts of my life together. The ONLY proof I could give you is REAL LIFE INFORMATION about me and him, of which I'm pretty sure is AGAINST the rules here, AND is a BIG risk to me AND him.

lots of people type the same, that is not reason enough to assume someone is someone else, if that were the case there would be millions of people in federal and state jails due to that fact, please do no make this a problem, I simply asked you to remove SOMEONE ELSE'S information, must I have HIM create an account and come tell you to remove it himself?

(frozen) Re: Please remove him

[lovelesskiax.livejournal.com]

Well now I just saw the shouts left on the other artist's page, and I'm more than convinced this story is a sham. The typing is exactly how you type, especially with the many "...", emphasizing words with capital letters, and putting "/I/" to emphasize yourself.

I will keep it here and add the shouts to the article.

(frozen) Re: Please remove him

[dantewolfington.livejournal.com]

that still doesn't mean shit, again, that would mean the FBI and the police could arrest you for typing IDENTICAL to a criminal their hunting down, would that make you THAT criminal? no, so you reasons are invalid.

(frozen) Re: Please remove him

[lovelesskiax.livejournal.com]

No, they are completely valid.
A person hiding on a new account wouldn't want to be found out after they were banned, it's obvious you're trying to hide it.
I will no longer be replying to you on this matter.

(frozen) Re: Please remove him

[kayla-la.livejournal.com]

Alright. I'm going to freeze this thread since it's just senseless back and forth right now.

Dante, if you can PM one of us moderators with some sort of proof that Fang isn't you, we'll ask Loveless to remove the name. But I hope you can understand that simply your word isn't good enough. Many people would lie in this situation.

That said, this post was from last year. I really, really recommend you let it drop and move on, instead of behaving in a way that is going to draw attention to this post again and refresh everyone to your name and mistakes.

(frozen) Why would I hide whats already done?

[dantewolfington.livejournal.com]

Hiding???? what do I have to hide? I left FA after being banned.....I wish to have NOTHING to do with FA....I hate, hate, HATE FA, because their so fucking stupid.....wanted THEIR reason for banning me to me the truth, instead of telling the truth.

I do no WISH to be associated with FA, that is another reason why you putting up my roommates FA is upseting me.....my FA IDC, because its banned....I'm not appealing it like they said I could, so I'm not even going to be ON FA...so why would I make ANOTHER profile on a site I hate? sriously think about it.....you being stupid and stubborn just because you WANT to be right...

I'm done with this arguement as well, all I'm doing now is asking you to please not make my friends life hell like you made mine, the poor old guy doesn't want to fight, or be caught up in drama now, got his fill of this madness from the FA users I asked him to check on, you want to continue hurting ME, fine what ever....do so, but don't hurt my friend.....