[identity profile] akadirio.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware


EDIT: After the artist saw the livejournal she has completed and posted the artwork owed. This beware still serves as a warning about this artist, but let me be clear that this was not a scam, instead a large delay and lack of proper contact.

WHO: Nukafoxy3

WHERE: furaffinity.net

WHAT: 3 digital pictures, two chibi style and one with more details.

WHEN: paid on the february 27th, march 18 was when the 'never delivered' art was first contacted about.

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EXPLAIN:

I commissioned the artist for a series of three digital commissions, paid for them accordingly as seen in the first screenshot. The first picture was delivered on time, surprisingly as it was less than a week between payment and due date. The second picture was not uploaded on its due date and i noted about it, as seen in screenshot two. This note was ignored and i only got a reply on a second note 5 days later , when both the second and third images in my commissions were past their due date on delivery. Her reply is seen in screenshot 3 - one image was uploaded soon after, the second of three i paid for.

My next note to the artist was on the first of april, after quite some waiting on the third piece. This is screenshot 4, and after 8 days i got a reply and we noted back and forth, the result seen in screenshot 5. I was promised it would be done soon, and i was offered (and accepted) a wip shot, which is screenshot 6 and screenshot 7 shows my reply to it.

After another month of patiently waiting for an update, contact or the finished art, i noted again asking for an update. I did get a confusing reply, apparently pointing back to the month old sketch - this is shown in screenshot 8.

In the final screenshot, you can see i finally lost hope of receiving the art, and i requested a refund. I was told i could not get it right away, and paypal only offers support if a ticket is opened within (i believe) 45 days. Between then and now, i have contacted her once more via the furaffinity shouts but sadly do not have screenshots; i asked an update on the refund and she stated she was still in red. At the date of writing, the 28th of July, i have still not had any word from her and still do not have a refund.

I am accepting this as a loss seeing as it's been so long, and it was only four or five dollars, but i do hope i can help protect others by making this post. Not a single time was i contacted by the artist, even when the due date she agreed to passed. She is still continuing to take commissions, and has been the entire time, but is finally beginning to deliver on her months old commissions... However, in my eyes it is far too little, too late, as she never did deliver the art, let alone by the date she agreed upon.

Mod Post

Date: 2013-07-28 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arphalia.livejournal.com
Post approved. However, I'd like for you double-check your caps. Cap-2 looks like a duplicate to Cap-1 (except the Paypal email isn't blocked out) and some of the cap numbers don't match up correctly with the explanation section at the bottom.

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Date: 2013-07-28 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinkslowdown.livejournal.com
I did a trade with her about six to seven months ago. Gave her a character design in return for her saying she'd do two icons for me.

I got one of the icons a month ago, still haven't seen the other. =/
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Date: 2013-07-29 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cathzcathz.livejournal.com
Five dollars is still five dollars, the fact that money is involved I consider still to be very important.

What rubs me the wrong way when I looked her up, seeing her recent journal. "My commissions are taking a bit longer than i thought...." by that does she means she hasn't finished them? Or she hasn't gotten any. Its not very professional to be asking for donations when you haven't finished your list of commissions.

And the last note on your beware, "I had your piece lined up and flat colored it just needed to be shaded" don't lie. If you haven't done it, just be straight forward. She dug herself a deeper hole, unless there's proof but surely you asked for that and never received it.

I hope you do get some sort of refund back or your art, it's not fair. I'm sorry it happened to you.

Beware well warranted.

Date: 2013-07-29 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsamellama.livejournal.com
This is even more concerning, from a journal of hers 3 weeks ago...

"COMMISSIONS COMPLETED
14/74"

Yikes.

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Date: 2013-07-31 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
I have compiled the deleted comments by the artist nukafoxy here.

In response to Slinkslowdown here (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/692998.html?thread=26652166#t26652166):

I'm sorry but I really don't remember this one. I don't ever trade icons, i usually just trade badges or pinups. please correct me if i'm wrong, and send me the note again. also i was not drawing a month ago as i was going through a serious life crisis.

also i have NEVER traded character designs, as i only design my own myself. so again please prove me wrong.


In response to cathzcathz here (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/692998.html?thread=26654726#t26654726):

i'm sorry if this upset you as well, i don't have a real job as it is very hard to find one by me, and my rent is coming up and i didn't know what to do. i've been stressed out as it is and this post isn't really helping...

In response to itsamellama here (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/692998.html?thread=26655238#t26655238):

as i didn't have a real job, i just couldn't bring myself to close commissions. so they just kept piling and piling. (yes it is my own fault) but i really dont appreciate being judged for it. i got so overwhelmed that i went into an art block and depression a few months ago, and my real life situation definitely wasn't helping. i finally have gotten up the strength to start drawing again, and this happens....

Date: 2013-07-31 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sableantelope.livejournal.com
There was also a comment directed at OP, stating a note had been sent to them and starting with what I quoted in my reply: "I'm sorry akadirio, but you have no idea what i have been going through since the beginning of march"...
That was followed by another post by the artist, possibly a reply to the one mentioning the note which was a link to the finished art work for OP.

I'm sorry I didn't screen cap. Not sure why those last two seem to have vanished with no deleted post placeholder.

Not sure if that's important enough to be worth mentioning or not, I just wanted to mention it because one of the deleted comments is one I quoted in my reply to them up above and it was strictly cut and past of their words. I didn't put any words in the artist's mouth, it was only exact quotes.

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Date: 2013-07-31 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cathzcathz.livejournal.com
You forgot one, this one was to the OP.

http://imgur.com/oPvKNLx

Date: 2013-07-31 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsamellama.livejournal.com
Thank you for this, I never got to see the comment myself as I'm in a completely different time zone. I see Nuka deleted their livejournal account, but some points in case she decides to read the thread:

as i didn't have a real job, i just couldn't bring myself to close commissions.

No! Commissions are providing other people a service - A REAL JOB. And real jobs do not take on more than they can handle or they will collapse! It's an unhealthy mindset of commission artists to think it's not a job when it is, so Nuka should have treated this much more professionally. At least Nuka has acknowledged it is her fault, but I don't see anywhere in my comment where I judged them, merely expressed concern and surprise (as an artist I was in a similar situation of a backlog but nowhere near that many) - don't jump so quickly to defend yourself when there was no malice intended at all, you make things look worse for yourself.

Nuka, close commissions and finish what you owe before you take on anything new, finish backlog a chunk at a time. Not having the additional stress of new work adding on top of old one will HELP YOU fight your art block and depression, I promise you. If Nuka doesn't and they keep taking more money than they can deliver products, eventually no future customer base will hire them for the job of providing custom art anymore.
Edited Date: 2013-07-31 12:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-31 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dean aaron meyers (from livejournal.com)
This is absolutely ridiculous that you guys are jumping on top of someone who is currently trying to fix the situation. She's working as hard as she can to remedy the situation and has had a lot of shit going on in her day to day life. Have a little patience and faith.

Date: 2013-07-31 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com
What happens in her day to day life is not of her customers concern. Excuses, deleting her comments, opening up for more commissions on top of the 74 she already has is not "remedying" anything.

She was posted here for a very valid reason.

You and her might find this AB post useful: http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/494658.html

Date: 2013-07-31 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dean aaron meyers (from livejournal.com)
I get that money is involved but day to day life comes first. It may not fit the timeline perfectly but I doubt that not getting them on the day you want is going to ruin your life.

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Date: 2013-07-31 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sableantelope.livejournal.com
But she isn't really trying to fix it at all. She is still taking new art for pay when she owes 60 pieces. 60 pieces.

She's taking money on a six character piece right now that she only started auctioning a day ago.
She should at the very least be honest and upfront with those bidders about the massive backlog ahead of them.

Also she really, really needs to start citing her references.

I already found one piece in her gallery, which although not a line for line trace, is way beyond just eyeballing a reference. The hand even cuts off on her icon base where the hand cuts off in the photo. I think buyers of that icon should be aware that they are getting that toes the lines of ethical.
http://i.imgur.com/10anxtQ.jpg
At the very least she should cite her source, that way the buyer can decided if it's too close for comfort or not.

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Date: 2013-07-31 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sintocat.livejournal.com
Well this went to hell in a hand basket. Preemptively blocking both artist and Dean Aaron. She is running a business Dean, money is involved. If she is not able to handle the work load, then she needs to refund people. End of story.

Date: 2013-08-01 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheepilyy.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear this, and read all of the comments. I hope she really is starting to work on her other commissions.
I cannot understand why she has a free art raffle when she has so many backlogged commissions.
I hope the sign of this art raffle means she has cleared out the backlog, which would be impressive in a couple days.

Date: 2013-08-01 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
I just saw that raffle journal of a person i watch entering it. wow 1000 watchers and yet the artist is backlogged in commissions.

Date: 2013-09-10 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitti kat (from livejournal.com)
i wish i found this sooner as i am waiting for a 10 pic from this person i keep asking for updates and she says it will be done in a day or so so i wait a week and ask again get the same thing now she is open again for the same thing and i was told it would be put in a huge art dump next week i so want to post this on fa people need to know.

Date: 2013-09-29 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
Might be better to make your own beware post on her.

:(

Date: 2014-07-08 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maxwell (from livejournal.com)
I don't think people should buy from nukafoxy3 any more. I too have not gotten my work. I have all the emails to prove it too. I also have spoken to others who also have not gotten their work. I am very sad, and think most of us will not ever see our work we payed for. The thing that makes me the most upset is that I thought I was helping her out because she always saying she needed help and money. I guess she was just not telling the truth about that along with all the pictures we are all due. :(

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Date: 2014-08-25 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
Might want to make a beware about this if it's still continuing.

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Date: 2014-11-30 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowysteed.livejournal.com
I can also confirm that Nukafoxy3 is now planning on taking a break and not refunding those who are awaiting them. She may not even finish much, if anymore work based on the note I received. I have been waiting 10 months for 4 pieces and changed it to a refund in October. These were commissioned on Feb 10 2014. Please make sure that everyone stays away from her. Keep commissioners safe!

still not finishing art

Date: 2015-06-14 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maureen bane (from livejournal.com)
Me and my mate have waited over a year for the badges we ordered from this artist. All through this past year we have seen multiple uploads of both new and backlogged commissions, not to mention personal art. Any time we would ask for an update we would get some sort of excuse for why they have not been done/sent. We will not be commissioning her ever again.

Still not finishing art and profile disabled

Date: 2016-10-03 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashley d (from livejournal.com)
Ordered one pinup from her (now Nuka_foxy3)because she said she was on hard times and needed the money. Gave me an expected turn around of one week. It's been 2 months. Every journal she posted was some excuse as to why she couldn't do art owed. She said refunds were unavailable and after being "pressured" by people to complete the art that she owed (she never closed for new commissions even though she wasn't completing anything), she has disabled her FA profile.

I consider the money I paid as gone.
Edited Date: 2016-10-03 09:46 am (UTC)

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