artist beware-tooth., dayy, sai-moonmist

[aspenbear.livejournal.com]

WHO: Sai-moonmist, tooth., dayy.

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tooth./
https://www.weasyl.com/~toothbones
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sai-moonmist
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/dayy/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/inpandemic.

WHAT: Fursuit parts, art, refund

WHEN: about 5 months ago [it is now feb 2014] I commissioned this artist to help them start up a fursuit making buisness. They were super friendly and helpfull to start with, but soon changed.
We bought fur from Sugar Factory on FA, and waited a month for it, never saw it. Then come to find out that the fur was never shipped and SF was in the ER.
SO, I asked tooth for my money back, and was willing to give LOTS of time since she was out the $70 i gave her from never getting the fur or money back from SF.
After a while, I see tooth is getting art from other people and begging for money. So I ontacted them several times to ask for my money back.
The following images shows my warning to report them, as well as conversations between us on the matter.


PROOF:
http://oi62.tinypic.com/s4c9r9.jpg This is where they said they would refund me.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/fux7xl.jpg Here they are blaming SF for their lack of money, which i understood at first, but soon learned they just enjoy blaming others.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/pt0kn.jpg Warning to Tooth that I am posting this AB
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2dkg5tg.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2le5cgk.jpg both of these are examples of ALL their journals asking and begging for commissions
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2s67p1w.jpg at one point, Tooth posted a journal asking for someone to make them pants, and that they would pay for them [aka-commission pants from someone] So I confronted them about it.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2jdfkzs.jpg here they said they had a spare $15 and used it to commission someone before paying not only me, but many people back. No, that $15 is not yours, its ours, and you used it~

As of Feb 25 2014 I still have not gotten my money back.

EXPLAIN: I think I covered it all above. The person begs for money and never refunds. If they can not take care of a fursuit making commission, they should not offer them in the first place. Fursuiting takes a lot of time, money, and effort, and Tooth doesnt seem to care about others unless it is quick, cheap digital art.

[edit while im typing]
they replied to me with the following
http://oi58.tinypic.com/xf48ch.jpg
and a journal post as well
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2cizbo.jpg

[edit March 10th 2014]
She tried commissioning a fellow artist, and when told she should be refunding people instead of buying art, here was her reply
http://i.imgur.com/DoOxFfk.png
I went to her page in rage, and tried to post a reply.
She is not, and never has been on my block list, in hopes she would turn herself around.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/es5k6b.jpg
in short, she still is lying....


[edit march 18th 2014]
Tooth asked for my paypal twice, and when i went to reply, they had me on my block list again
http://oi60.tinypic.com/n2lamw.jpg


[edit march 19th 2014]
she removed me to message me again, but tried to pity party with the whole "emergency dog fund" thing
http://oi58.tinypic.com/v5vj82.jpg

[edit march 24th 2014]
she gave me $20 back, still owes me a lot more, but she keeps saying "im taking it out of my dogs funds, so be happy"

Comments

[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

Wow, her responses at the bottom. I have no words for how absolutely disturbing that is. She clearly has very terrible etiquette when dealing with people.

[dragontripmon.livejournal.com]

Wow and all those comments from that same journal as well shows how irresponsible she is.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5539077/

[thaily.livejournal.com]

"Rudeness will be blocked IMMEDIATELY."

One line later.

"fuck you.

Fuck your attitude

Fuck your rude ass comments.

Fuck.

You.

It's people like YOU who make people like me HATE THEMSELVES.

HATE THEIR ART.

HATE YOU. "

Wow. Just wow.

[jemindra.livejournal.com]

woooooooooooow

that journal there where she's asking for money for her dog in emergency commissions... that's the user ominous_pants was talking about in their AB post some posts ago?

looking at her history, oh boy... that's someone i definitely don't want to deal with.

[ominous-pants.livejournal.com]

yep.

[rueq.livejournal.com]

I've noticed that Tooth is constantly buying designs from people I happen to watch. So really she should be able to pay you back and just seems to be avoiding doing so..? I just looked at her journals and the amount asking for money is just.. urgh.
Just recently she:

Paid for a custom monkey design from Mitarashi - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12829748/ ($20)
An adopt from Diehansen - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12794598/ ($15)
Paid for a custom zookeeper from Sundances - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12857135/ ($25)
Paid for a custom dinodog from Uriko44 - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12874396/ ($15)

That there shows she had/has enough to refund you.

[thecreativepen.livejournal.com]

She even made one bid two days ago....wow.

[blot.livejournal.com]

Mother of Cupcake batter those links at the bottom, and that journal. Goodness D:

[kyotosorae.livejournal.com]

Their behavior towards you is just icky, but after looking trough few of their journals and over all behavior i'm amazed that people still keep on cheering them to go on and give them money!
Also their latest journal made it sound like they are just about to make a run for it with all they have "gathered" up ._.

[chronidu.livejournal.com]

Christ the last links at the bottom are more than enough to fully warrant the beware and then some.

And I wish everyone in that journal was linked to this to see what she was talking about there and to see you've been totally polite, professional, and courteous from start to finish in a situation where she has basically stolen and spent your money.

[mochacorgi.livejournal.com]

Welp they are going right on Mocha's black list of people to never work with
THAT ATTITUDE
THAT JOURNAL
I am Appalled! If I EVER said something like that, I am sure my small gathering of watchers would run for the hills! I Don't know how people support it?

[mazz.livejournal.com]

They hope they can be BFFs with the person and get free shit.
Behavior like that is just appalling.

[mazz.livejournal.com]

Wow....

-watch

[ominous-pants.livejournal.com]

after seeing that rude shout the other day i'm pretty glad this went through. sorry you've had such a bad experience. :/

[orangemonsterco.livejournal.com]

I just declined selling her some designs yesterday because of this sort of behavior. I'm sorry this happened to you.

[weirdmisty.livejournal.com]

Uggh, what a nasty, awful, entitled attitude. Sounds like she's really immature. Hopefully she gets a wake-up call and grows the heck up.

[mistresswolf.livejournal.com]

wow Completely appalling behaviour on her part.

[lackoflollies.livejournal.com]

I love her most recent journal.

[tarah-rosemoon.livejournal.com]

So many buttpats in that journal. I've already blocked her based on other posts I've seen about her but I'll never understand how people can just so blindly take one person's word for something when they don't know the entire situation.

[mistresswolf.livejournal.com]

I know. I see these "so and so is a big meanie face! *no explanation*" and everyone rallying around, buttpatting and being all "oh you poor baby! people are big meanies!" ... and I facedesk every time.

[val !! (from livejournal.com)]

those responses at the bottom of your post are really appalling. i'll never understand why people decide to spend money on commissions/merchandise when they owe people refunds :(.

[teekchan.livejournal.com]

She tried to trade with me, but I wasn't a fan of her copycat art, so I never replied. Im glad I didn't. Adding to the block list.

[duster.livejournal.com]

Well this girl has no business being in business. Avoiding.

[germanchoclates.livejournal.com]

Oh my gosh, if her flappy teenager speak isn't a complete turn off in the conversations between you both, their response to being put on AB certainly is. Good lord almighty. The fact they kept mentioning sugar factory makes it seem like they want to make the entire ordeal their fault when, yeah, while that did stink up the entire thing, isn't the commissioner's fault. Beware most certainly well warranted.

[friskecrisps.livejournal.com]

I want to see she's probably faking the depression, anxiety stuff. Honestly, this is...man there are no words to describe this girl. She really needs to revaluate herself

[kayla-la.livejournal.com]

Hi! Please refrain from commenting on whether or not someone is faking depression and the like, we're not really here for stuff like that and it can be pretty offensive. Thank you!

[sacch.livejournal.com]

One of her latest rant journals just... makes me side-eye her so hard.
Maybe people wouldn't avoid you if you, you know, stuck to your word and showed mature, adult behavior. Because why act like an adult?

Beware so warranted, I just cannot words.

[ominous-pants.livejournal.com]

all of her rant journals make make side-eye so hard

Wow

[xiaine.livejournal.com]

This is the artist Mitarashi that she commissioned a custom from, and thank you for posting this. this just... calls for me to be a lot more strict with my commissions as she has not paid for hers at all yet v-v Dang, thank you for sending this cause now I'm going to make sure people pay first before I start anything.

Re: Wow

[lunar-orchids.livejournal.com]

Honestly if she hasn't paid you for your work yet you could resell him. It's unfair for you to have to wait for a payment unless they contacted you about it already.

I'd just personally let them know that if they do not pay soon you'll be reselling the jar after to recoup losses on the work.

I personally always try to keep in contact with the people I work with letting them know when to expect payment after sketches are shown to me if I didn't have to pay until sketch approval and I always ask them to please invoice me accordingly so that it doesn't slip my mind either. You did do the work and a wonderful job I might add you should be paid accordingly

[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

She's now asking people to get her more art so she has 100 pieces of her fursona and offering a prize to the person that gets her the 100th. Pretty sleazy, in my opinion.

[likeshine.livejournal.com]

grrr, those big bad popufurs just stompin' the little guy for simply asking about brushes
/sarcasm

[aspenbear.livejournal.com]

i noticed that comment too. after someone noted her about the journal.
shes fond of coming up with side stories to cover her butt it seems lol
were you perhaps the one that she was complaining about?

[tealmoonxiv.livejournal.com]

I can't say anything other than, DISGUSTING.

[furfancy.livejournal.com]

i had an issue with her twice. she wanted to buy this suit from me and said she had a job and was able to pay 2000 in 2 months she was able to pay 100 thats it and i told her it was non refundable. she tried to get the $100 back but ti was just a big waste of time . the 3rd time hes up for sale and shes wanting it again. After all this running around found out she didnt have a job and she ruined her reputation with me.