artist beware-tooth., dayy, sai-moonmist

[aspenbear.livejournal.com]

WHO: Sai-moonmist, tooth., dayy.

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tooth./
https://www.weasyl.com/~toothbones
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sai-moonmist
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/dayy/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/inpandemic.

WHAT: Fursuit parts, art, refund

WHEN: about 5 months ago [it is now feb 2014] I commissioned this artist to help them start up a fursuit making buisness. They were super friendly and helpfull to start with, but soon changed.
We bought fur from Sugar Factory on FA, and waited a month for it, never saw it. Then come to find out that the fur was never shipped and SF was in the ER.
SO, I asked tooth for my money back, and was willing to give LOTS of time since she was out the $70 i gave her from never getting the fur or money back from SF.
After a while, I see tooth is getting art from other people and begging for money. So I ontacted them several times to ask for my money back.
The following images shows my warning to report them, as well as conversations between us on the matter.


PROOF:
http://oi62.tinypic.com/s4c9r9.jpg This is where they said they would refund me.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/fux7xl.jpg Here they are blaming SF for their lack of money, which i understood at first, but soon learned they just enjoy blaming others.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/pt0kn.jpg Warning to Tooth that I am posting this AB
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2dkg5tg.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2le5cgk.jpg both of these are examples of ALL their journals asking and begging for commissions
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2s67p1w.jpg at one point, Tooth posted a journal asking for someone to make them pants, and that they would pay for them [aka-commission pants from someone] So I confronted them about it.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2jdfkzs.jpg here they said they had a spare $15 and used it to commission someone before paying not only me, but many people back. No, that $15 is not yours, its ours, and you used it~

As of Feb 25 2014 I still have not gotten my money back.

EXPLAIN: I think I covered it all above. The person begs for money and never refunds. If they can not take care of a fursuit making commission, they should not offer them in the first place. Fursuiting takes a lot of time, money, and effort, and Tooth doesnt seem to care about others unless it is quick, cheap digital art.

[edit while im typing]
they replied to me with the following
http://oi58.tinypic.com/xf48ch.jpg
and a journal post as well
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2cizbo.jpg

[edit March 10th 2014]
She tried commissioning a fellow artist, and when told she should be refunding people instead of buying art, here was her reply
http://i.imgur.com/DoOxFfk.png
I went to her page in rage, and tried to post a reply.
She is not, and never has been on my block list, in hopes she would turn herself around.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/es5k6b.jpg
in short, she still is lying....


[edit march 18th 2014]
Tooth asked for my paypal twice, and when i went to reply, they had me on my block list again
http://oi60.tinypic.com/n2lamw.jpg


[edit march 19th 2014]
she removed me to message me again, but tried to pity party with the whole "emergency dog fund" thing
http://oi58.tinypic.com/v5vj82.jpg

[edit march 24th 2014]
she gave me $20 back, still owes me a lot more, but she keeps saying "im taking it out of my dogs funds, so be happy"

Comments

Wow

[xiaine.livejournal.com]

This is the artist Mitarashi that she commissioned a custom from, and thank you for posting this. this just... calls for me to be a lot more strict with my commissions as she has not paid for hers at all yet v-v Dang, thank you for sending this cause now I'm going to make sure people pay first before I start anything.

Re: Wow

[lunar-orchids.livejournal.com]

Honestly if she hasn't paid you for your work yet you could resell him. It's unfair for you to have to wait for a payment unless they contacted you about it already.

I'd just personally let them know that if they do not pay soon you'll be reselling the jar after to recoup losses on the work.

I personally always try to keep in contact with the people I work with letting them know when to expect payment after sketches are shown to me if I didn't have to pay until sketch approval and I always ask them to please invoice me accordingly so that it doesn't slip my mind either. You did do the work and a wonderful job I might add you should be paid accordingly

Re: Wow

[xiaine.livejournal.com]

Thank you for this ;n; Luckily the problem was resolved and she paid. Ah v-v; I got really scared about this and really hope things are different. Just hope she pays those other people back and stuff, this shouldn't be going on ;-;

Re: Wow

[rueq.livejournal.com]

In the future I really do recommend you have a 'pay up front' policy or at least don't give people the large unwatermarked versions of designs until they pay :C (This is Dis by the way!)

Re: Wow

[xiaine.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I will be sure to do all of that v-v;;; I feel pretty dumb for not playin it safe, but I will be sure to keep this in mind.
Thank you Dis ;u;