[identity profile] tamararama.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
Commission related stuff has been moved to http://www.furaffinity.net/journals/inkyfox/ and the Stellary account is now used for personal stuff.

Personal art is being posted, words are being written in journals (seems cubital tunnel is a problem for them now...), list of owed money and pictures has been done and posted in journal, and some commissions have been taken.

I would like to ask if anyone knows if any progress has been made by this person on the refund/draw old commissions front?

As far as I know, nothing has been done so far, except words. I have yet to see even one cent of the money they still owe me...

Thank you.

Date: 2015-04-19 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jansither.livejournal.com
I have not seen anything from her that is not personal.

Date: 2015-04-19 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbxr.livejournal.com
I actually don't understand why he was unbanned in the first place because despite being given a second chance he has made absolutely no progress on refunds or old commissions. In fact, all i've seen him do is personal art and then take on MORE commissions/ychs. He recently gave the excuse of his wrist/hand having issues but despite that he managed to draw and upload personal art today. He could have made a start on someone's commission in the time he did that personal art piece.

Date: 2015-04-19 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Unlike carpal tunnel, cubital tunnel doesn't necessarily prevent you from drawing. It just causes a lot of discomfort in the pinky and ring finger as well as pain up the forearm. I'd hardly call it an "excuse" as I live with the same condition along with another. Though I agree that Stellary definitely needs to be working on his queue. That's been a problem since before he seemed to have developed cubital tunnel.

edit: whoops, didn't mean to misgender there.
Edited Date: 2015-04-19 08:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-19 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistresswolf.livejournal.com
Yeah I have some condition (I've never had it diagnosed) where my fingers start to go numb... but it is very painful. It doesn't always happen, but when it does, I am doing something like holding a pen or needle or seam ripper, etc. It is excruciating, but I just take more frequent breaks and power through it.

Annoying, 'cause my source of income is sewing and drawing. XDD

Date: 2015-04-19 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timelapsedecay.livejournal.com
Seconding this. I have cubital tunnel and I also have really severe nerve damage on the left side of my body from an accident. I'm inclined to believe he can work through the pain. He needs to take regular breaks for the sake of resting the hand, but he could finish his commissions fine.

Date: 2015-04-19 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Oop, sorry! I think my comment was being misinterpreted. I don't think the word "excuse" is very kind to use as it can be detrimental to working. Though most of us know how to just kind of work through it and take breaks.

Date: 2015-04-20 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kestral-kitsune.livejournal.com
I actually laughed hard at my doctor when he told me i needed to rest my wrist/arm for an hour when it started tingling. I'm all.. dude I can't take an hour off every time it starts going numb when I'm at work. Now if it happens at home? yeah, I rest and ice it as needed plus i wear braces to bed. but for around 8hrs a day I literally just push through the pain, and i think it doesn't help that my coworkers are all 'oh its just in your head' about it whenever I start dropping things cause I can't feel my hands.


annnnd that sounds ..really bad but I can't think of another way to word what i deal with D:>
Edited Date: 2015-04-20 01:38 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-20 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timelapsedecay.livejournal.com
Exactly, it's something you have to regulate and it's important to pay attention to your body, but even I have to admit, it's tempting to be a little lazier or work a little slower when you have this kind of ailment. Self-management is key to do a job like this one

Date: 2015-04-20 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kestral-kitsune.livejournal.com
I end up working slower because of it,my jobs not exactly time sensitive as long as I do whats needed and its cleaned properly. I just annoyed with the looks when i keep dropping the mop.

Date: 2015-04-20 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hidden-kyuubi.livejournal.com
Heck, I have carpal tunnel and basically had to stop drawing except for some light stuff because of it, but also don't take commissions because I know between the carpal tunnel/damage from it(diagnosed for years with heavy drawing, then a maintenance/hands on job) and a toddler that there's no way I could finish anything in a timely matter. Plus when my carpal tunnel got really bad after I started said job my quality of art went way down, and I can't do the skill level I used to do.

Date: 2015-04-20 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcharmer.livejournal.com
I actually didn't know cubital tunnel was a thing until just now so I self-diagnosed carpal tunnel. I always wondered why my elbow/pinkie hurt much more than my wrist. I get wrist pain sometimes, but 90% of the time I have pain, it's in my elbow [to the point where I bought an elbow brace to help with it]. Even doing things like driving...bad pain.

Think I'll bring it up with my doctor this week and see what she says.

But yeah, like pretty much everyone is saying...I've figured out ways to work through it and that's what needs to be done. I don't want anyone to work so much that they have permanent nerve damage, but there are exercises and stuff you can do.

Date: 2015-04-20 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poizenkat.livejournal.com
for me it gets so painful that i can barely move my arm, so i dont know. i dont know how bad it is for him, but it can definitely prevent someone from working depending on how severe it is.

Date: 2015-04-20 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
I don't think that's our right to judge that, especially if you yourself don't have the condition.

Date: 2015-04-20 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poizenkat.livejournal.com
I'm not defending it, im just pointing out that depending on the person it's not as minor as people seem to think.

edit: as well as that when mine flares up i find that my art comes off weird and off? so i tend to mostly draw personal art so that i dont give my commissioners something of a lower quality then they paid for.
but like i said, id refund people.
Edited Date: 2015-04-20 06:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-20 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aerospiritual.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what I have, but some days I get pain all the way up to my shoulder and it can make art really hard, but... my clients still take priority? It's one thing to just take a day off and rest, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that, but it's entirely different when it's being wielded as an excuse not to do work while still producing personal works.

I don't think anyone would criticize him for having cubital tunnel and taking breaks to manage his condition. For me, at least, it's the fact that he's using it as a reason not to complete his owed work while still drawing personal works for himself. That doesn't sit right with me; why should one form of art be put on hold because of a medical condition while still being prolific with another?

Date: 2015-04-20 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spartanwerewolf.livejournal.com
Eh, he might be using it as an excuse, but I'm sort of side-eyeing all of the "well I can work through the pain" comments. Some folks can work through it, some can't. Given this user's past history, it doesn't look good, but imo, no one can really judge someone else's pain or disorders.

I've had days where my tardive dyskinesia makes it so I don't have enough hand control to pick up a plastic cup, let alone a pen. I don't think anyone should be faulted if they actually can't work, although if it's a chronic condition that is exacerbated by working, commissions are probably not the best career choice.

Date: 2015-04-21 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinstripedtiger.livejournal.com
I think whether or not he can or can't work through the pain is irrelevant. If he can't do it, he needs to refund people or stop taking commissions. If he can't refund people because he's spent the money already, he needs to work through it or talk with his clients about reaching a resolution.

ETA: this was supposed to be a reply, oops
Edited Date: 2015-04-21 02:33 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-21 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphistscot.livejournal.com
MTE, if he can't do the work then he needs to refund and not take any more commissions. They're not short-term loans. (if they were then the interest rates would be sky-high)

Date: 2015-04-21 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jansither.livejournal.com
She is taking new commissions on another website now.

Date: 2015-11-30 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] totschrei.livejournal.com
I am not surprised.

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