[identity profile] kayla-na.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
Text: WHO: HeavyPanda, WerewolfConfess, Henry(As posted on their DA)

WHERE: Stream Commissions, Initial interest was in an FA note.

WHAT: Digital art. $75 Flat color commission with a $15 discount, and a freebie thrown in as a gesture of good faith.

WHEN: Yesterday afternoon-ish. 6/10/2017

EXPLAIN: He came to me on FA expressing interest for a commission. I politely told him to hit me up in my stream if he'd like a commission, which he did. He gave me the info he wanted, I gave him the price, and he agreed to it. I did the artwork, and sent him a freebie as part of my promotion for yesterday's stream commissions and he thanked me. Later on, I find an e-mail from paypal saying that a chargeback has been issued, and I can't fight back with it because it's a digital good, and it was a nsfw picture. I do not have the conversation of our transaction cause it was in stream and I had turned off my computer a while after I was done to take a nap.

I tried contacting him through FA, only to find out that his FA account (HeavyPanda) has been disabled. I tried contacting him through DA (WerewolfConfess), only to find out that he's blocked me. I tried contacting him through e-mail; never received a response.

I've been trying to earn money all week to help pay for my medication for my eyes, and to help my husband cover the costs for a busted pipe that needs to be replaced in our house, and our sink replaced. So getting swindled out of my labor has majorly stressed me out.

PROOF:

Artwork: https://www.dropbox.com/s/of2vx1do9p6lt7h/heavypanda.png?dl=0 - NSFW WARNING

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5x8qrvu9tqzzobm/heavyfreebie.png?dl=0


Invoice:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/56ms0ykqokcleq7/Invoice.png?dl=0


FA Conversation:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfv256tr5zb6yo9/User_control_panel_--_Fur_Affinity_%5Bdot%5D_net_-_2017-06-11_01.49.47.png?dl=0


Disabled Account:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/68t53qnro0nxb34/Account_disabled._--_Fur_Affinity_%5Bdot%5D_net_-_2017-06-11_02.12.11.png?dl=0


DA Block (Note the quip on the bottom right where it says I can't comment on his page)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/csjzw95q34hs47v/WerewolfConfess_%28Henry%29_DeviantArt_-_2017-06-11_05.21.03.png?dl=0



Chargeback:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnqix6r4xrbdyb2/chargeback.png?dl=0


Me trying to contact him through e-mail:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ybggoqiqdqv8ow/email.png?dl=0


Update:

I just got this in my inbox O_o

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5la9145iqilq4cc/refund.png?dl=0

Date: 2017-06-12 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weisk.livejournal.com
I was just about to comment, took an archive if it if anyone is interested - https://archive.is/617ns

So very convenient that this mystery kid who just happens to also like Sonic and just so happens to be 18 so commissioning a nsfw pic is okay. And also just so happened to commission a picture of a hedgehog that he owns. Mhmmmmmm.

Date: 2017-06-12 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Sure a "nephew". About as believable as any other "my cousin/ sister/ brother/ roommate" did it. And even if it actually is the case, then he needs to recoup the cost from his "nephew".

Date: 2017-06-12 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachael walters (from livejournal.com)
I also find it funny it took him 4 weeks to notice his "Nephew" did this. His story has more holes then swish cheese.
Even if it was true why would the Nephew commission a character that dude owns and not tell him for 4 weeks not to mention think blocking someone is correct thing to do?

I feel no remorse for anyone who believes this story and backs him up, Beware well warranted and I hope others don't accept him.

Date: 2017-06-12 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sno-pomf.livejournal.com
Not to mention....your nephew was excited and PROUDLY told you that he bought Sonic Porn? That just doesn't make a lick of sense.

Date: 2017-06-12 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] armaina.livejournal.com
Never mind that paypal has a time-out, even if you left the window open in the browser, it would time out and you'd have to enter the password again to access it. Unless you let your browser save the password which, that's just unsafe, honestly. And that's before even getting into him commissioning a character the account owner owns, and not like, his own character.

(and if your nephew is real and 18 they can get their own Paypal account and bank account and learn some financial responsibility)

Date: 2017-06-13 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphistscot.livejournal.com
Wait, isn't it a SERIOUS breach of Paypal's TOS to knowingly let someone else use your account? Especially if said person is a minor (not that I believe this 'nephew' exists but let's pretend I do) and using it to illegally buy pornography. Because if he's not a minor, why doesn't he have his own Paypal account? That seems like the kind of thing Paypal might suspend an account for...

Date: 2017-06-13 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikedkanine.livejournal.com
I took one of the full conversation, including his response to others: http://archive.is/EW1Pf

Judging by his responses to everyone, I think we're dealing with someone whose a few fries short of a happy meal, honestly.

I don't know what well-adjusted adult (even assuming the thing about the nephew is true) would just block Kayla-Na everywhere to avoid dealing with the situation.

And his comment "Besides, if she's as popular as some of you say she is, she can make that money back today if she wanted to. She could probably double it." is so flippant and frustrating.

Honestly, I think he just wanted his money back for one reason or another, yanked it back, then went into hiding hoping that by the time Kayla-Na noticed it'd be too late and he would have gotten to have his cake and eat it.
The fact that he is smirking in everyone's face who calls him out about it-- and constantly telling us about how funny it is to him and his friends makes me think he's hoping to achieve some sort of edgelord status or something for shrugging everyone off.

Like, dude. Just admit it, you were caught. Give the chick her money back. she earned it whether it was you or your 'nephew' that bought the commission.

I'm so glad that for once Paypal worked in the artist's favor and she got her cash back. x_x

MOD COMMENT

Date: 2017-06-13 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
Please be aware we have a rule regarding name calling and that you're toeing that line by referring to the bewared person as "a few fries short of a happy meal" and his mental capacity overall.

We're not the comm for it so please be careful with wording.

Thank you.

Re: MOD COMMENT

Date: 2017-06-13 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikedkanine.livejournal.com
Oops!! Sorry about that. I tried to be as polite and gentle with my wording while still getting across my displeasure with this persons behavior.

I'll try not to let it happen again.

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