Advice, please?

[volmise.livejournal.com]

I've kind of been pinned into a commission that I can't cancel. It's for a friend and they're being extremely pushy.

Let's start back at the beginning, it'll be easier for everyone.

Basically three months ago a friend of mine came to me for a commission of his human character. I told him flat out that I'm not the best with humans and actually get frustrated and have to scrap any attempts I do when I draw one. He insisted, told me his commission would be easy and that everything would be okay.

I say screw it, agree to the commission, and then give him my commission terms. Everyone I treat, friend or not, has to follow these. He read them, agreed and then sent me refs, telling me to hold off on doing anything until he paid. He agreed to pay with PayPal. Which is mainly what I accept.

Comes back to me two days later saying that PayPal refuses to verify his bank account and card (I honestly think he just doesn't know what he's doing, and I linked him to an FAQ that addresses these issues) and that he went ahead and bought a GreenDot card to pay for it. (GreenDot cards are prepaid PayPal cards. You use them to load funds onto your PayPal, or to transfer funds to another Paypal, in a nutshell.)

This is where I got upset. Since 1. he couldn't get a Paypal, meaning if I needed to drop the commission I can't refund him. and 2. He did not discuss this method of payment with me prior to doing it. My commission contact explicitly says to INFORM ME ahead of time what method of payment you plan on using.

He then stops talking to me after telling me he has the card. Never gave me the pin, so I never got the funds, therefore I never started work. I figured, okay, it's over and done with.

He contacts me two days ago, angry that he hasn't seen any work yet. I point him back to my terms and tell him flat out, I don't start work until I have payment. He then says he never agreed to that, but then gives me the pin to the card and has me start regardless.

So here I sit right now with $30 in my PayPal that I cannot refund to him, an angry friend who insists that I can draw humans and things will be fine, and a horrible sketch that I'm not satisfied with and I know he won't be either. If it were a matter of just practicing the human anatomy and giving him something using that, hey, I'd be doing it. But I don't want to give him a picture I'm not fully satisfied with. Not to mention I'm not comfortable drawing these things anyways.

What do I do?

Advice, please?

[volmise.livejournal.com]

I've kind of been pinned into a commission that I can't cancel. It's for a friend and they're being extremely pushy.

Let's start back at the beginning, it'll be easier for everyone.

Basically three months ago a friend of mine came to me for a commission of his human character. I told him flat out that I'm not the best with humans and actually get frustrated and have to scrap any attempts I do when I draw one. He insisted, told me his commission would be easy and that everything would be okay.

I say screw it, agree to the commission, and then give him my commission terms. Everyone I treat, friend or not, has to follow these. He read them, agreed and then sent me refs, telling me to hold off on doing anything until he paid. He agreed to pay with PayPal. Which is mainly what I accept.

Comes back to me two days later saying that PayPal refuses to verify his bank account and card (I honestly think he just doesn't know what he's doing, and I linked him to an FAQ that addresses these issues) and that he went ahead and bought a GreenDot card to pay for it. (GreenDot cards are prepaid PayPal cards. You use them to load funds onto your PayPal, or to transfer funds to another Paypal, in a nutshell.)

This is where I got upset. Since 1. he couldn't get a Paypal, meaning if I needed to drop the commission I can't refund him. and 2. He did not discuss this method of payment with me prior to doing it. My commission contact explicitly says to INFORM ME ahead of time what method of payment you plan on using.

He then stops talking to me after telling me he has the card. Never gave me the pin, so I never got the funds, therefore I never started work. I figured, okay, it's over and done with.

He contacts me two days ago, angry that he hasn't seen any work yet. I point him back to my terms and tell him flat out, I don't start work until I have payment. He then says he never agreed to that, but then gives me the pin to the card and has me start regardless.

So here I sit right now with $30 in my PayPal that I cannot refund to him, an angry friend who insists that I can draw humans and things will be fine, and a horrible sketch that I'm not satisfied with and I know he won't be either. If it were a matter of just practicing the human anatomy and giving him something using that, hey, I'd be doing it. But I don't want to give him a picture I'm not fully satisfied with. Not to mention I'm not comfortable drawing these things anyways.

What do I do?

Advice, please?

[volmise.livejournal.com]

I've kind of been pinned into a commission that I can't cancel. It's for a friend and they're being extremely pushy.

Let's start back at the beginning, it'll be easier for everyone.

Basically three months ago a friend of mine came to me for a commission of his human character. I told him flat out that I'm not the best with humans and actually get frustrated and have to scrap any attempts I do when I draw one. He insisted, told me his commission would be easy and that everything would be okay.

I say screw it, agree to the commission, and then give him my commission terms. Everyone I treat, friend or not, has to follow these. He read them, agreed and then sent me refs, telling me to hold off on doing anything until he paid. He agreed to pay with PayPal. Which is mainly what I accept.

Comes back to me two days later saying that PayPal refuses to verify his bank account and card (I honestly think he just doesn't know what he's doing, and I linked him to an FAQ that addresses these issues) and that he went ahead and bought a GreenDot card to pay for it. (GreenDot cards are prepaid PayPal cards. You use them to load funds onto your PayPal, or to transfer funds to another Paypal, in a nutshell.)

This is where I got upset. Since 1. he couldn't get a Paypal, meaning if I needed to drop the commission I can't refund him. and 2. He did not discuss this method of payment with me prior to doing it. My commission contact explicitly says to INFORM ME ahead of time what method of payment you plan on using.

He then stops talking to me after telling me he has the card. Never gave me the pin, so I never got the funds, therefore I never started work. I figured, okay, it's over and done with.

He contacts me two days ago, angry that he hasn't seen any work yet. I point him back to my terms and tell him flat out, I don't start work until I have payment. He then says he never agreed to that, but then gives me the pin to the card and has me start regardless.

So here I sit right now with $30 in my PayPal that I cannot refund to him, an angry friend who insists that I can draw humans and things will be fine, and a horrible sketch that I'm not satisfied with and I know he won't be either. If it were a matter of just practicing the human anatomy and giving him something using that, hey, I'd be doing it. But I don't want to give him a picture I'm not fully satisfied with. Not to mention I'm not comfortable drawing these things anyways.

What do I do?

KuroKitten87- Update

[skirtandzy.livejournal.com]

Seeing the previous post here, I've decided to update my own issue that I had with Kuro, as found here:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/383027.html

My half from that: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3364785/

==UPDATE==

As of today, over 1 year since my initial A_B post, and 18 months since the trade I made with Kuro, I have still yet to receive anything from her.

Every once in a while, I would try to communicate with her, each time, the conversation dead-ended, if it began at all.

I have a few of these saved: (Take note, I changed my FA username this summer, so that is why there are two different names on this)

February of 2011: http://i.imgur.com/9iA9Y.png
In February, she claimed it finished, and just needed to wait for the recent snowfall to lessen.

April 2011: http://i.imgur.com/PqGY6.jpg
Now she claims to be working on it

July 2011: http://i.imgur.com/cwOoZ.png
This is when I alert her to my changed account (so converation could continue there), and again she claims to be working on it.

September 2011: http://i.imgur.com/GQlH9.png
I note her, with a reintroduction, and explain my contact, it was read, but not responded to.



The problem I have now is what to do. I really only see three options to this:
1. Wait it out to see if anything comes.
2. Chalk it up as a loss (I really do not want to do this)
3. Ask for compensation (*note below)
*The problem with the third one is that I would not know what 'compensation' would be. When I was doing the writing, it would be either as a gift to friends (or for someone for something important) or as a trade. I never exchaned money in any of the cases, so I'd not think it'd be applicable after the fact, and given that it was never in writing.




Edit 1: Kuro has contacted me, about sending out something. I've asked for a preview, and will edit this again once things are sorted out.

Edit 1.5: We've exchanged notes, and I've provided my email. As of yet, I have yet to receive a preview of what she is planning on sending. She said that it would be sent out after she finished babysitting on the 31st. Here is the exchange of notes, her's being in yellow, mine in blue.
http://i.imgur.com/X9M7S.png

KuroKitten87- Update

[skirtandzy.livejournal.com]

Seeing the previous post here, I've decided to update my own issue that I had with Kuro, as found here:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/383027.html

My half from that: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3364785/

==UPDATE==

As of today, over 1 year since my initial A_B post, and 18 months since the trade I made with Kuro, I have still yet to receive anything from her.

Every once in a while, I would try to communicate with her, each time, the conversation dead-ended, if it began at all.

I have a few of these saved: (Take note, I changed my FA username this summer, so that is why there are two different names on this)

February of 2011: http://i.imgur.com/9iA9Y.png
In February, she claimed it finished, and just needed to wait for the recent snowfall to lessen.

April 2011: http://i.imgur.com/PqGY6.jpg
Now she claims to be working on it

July 2011: http://i.imgur.com/cwOoZ.png
This is when I alert her to my changed account (so converation could continue there), and again she claims to be working on it.

September 2011: http://i.imgur.com/GQlH9.png
I note her, with a reintroduction, and explain my contact, it was read, but not responded to.



The problem I have now is what to do. I really only see three options to this:
1. Wait it out to see if anything comes.
2. Chalk it up as a loss (I really do not want to do this)
3. Ask for compensation (*note below)
*The problem with the third one is that I would not know what 'compensation' would be. When I was doing the writing, it would be either as a gift to friends (or for someone for something important) or as a trade. I never exchaned money in any of the cases, so I'd not think it'd be applicable after the fact, and given that it was never in writing.




Edit 1: Kuro has contacted me, about sending out something. I've asked for a preview, and will edit this again once things are sorted out.

Edit 1.5: We've exchanged notes, and I've provided my email. As of yet, I have yet to receive a preview of what she is planning on sending. She said that it would be sent out after she finished babysitting on the 31st. Here is the exchange of notes, her's being in yellow, mine in blue.
http://i.imgur.com/X9M7S.png

KuroKitten87- Update

[skirtandzy.livejournal.com]

Seeing the previous post here, I've decided to update my own issue that I had with Kuro, as found here:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/383027.html

My half from that: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3364785/

==UPDATE==

As of today, over 1 year since my initial A_B post, and 18 months since the trade I made with Kuro, I have still yet to receive anything from her.

Every once in a while, I would try to communicate with her, each time, the conversation dead-ended, if it began at all.

I have a few of these saved: (Take note, I changed my FA username this summer, so that is why there are two different names on this)

February of 2011: http://i.imgur.com/9iA9Y.png
In February, she claimed it finished, and just needed to wait for the recent snowfall to lessen.

April 2011: http://i.imgur.com/PqGY6.jpg
Now she claims to be working on it

July 2011: http://i.imgur.com/cwOoZ.png
This is when I alert her to my changed account (so converation could continue there), and again she claims to be working on it.

September 2011: http://i.imgur.com/GQlH9.png
I note her, with a reintroduction, and explain my contact, it was read, but not responded to.



The problem I have now is what to do. I really only see three options to this:
1. Wait it out to see if anything comes.
2. Chalk it up as a loss (I really do not want to do this)
3. Ask for compensation (*note below)
*The problem with the third one is that I would not know what 'compensation' would be. When I was doing the writing, it would be either as a gift to friends (or for someone for something important) or as a trade. I never exchaned money in any of the cases, so I'd not think it'd be applicable after the fact, and given that it was never in writing.




Edit 1: Kuro has contacted me, about sending out something. I've asked for a preview, and will edit this again once things are sorted out.

Edit 1.5: We've exchanged notes, and I've provided my email. As of yet, I have yet to receive a preview of what she is planning on sending. She said that it would be sent out after she finished babysitting on the 31st. Here is the exchange of notes, her's being in yellow, mine in blue.
http://i.imgur.com/X9M7S.png