[identity profile] pumpkin314.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware

WHO: Stellary/Absinthe aka Inky/Nancy/Stellary on Chatlands

WHERE: main base: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/absinthe, commission transactions took place on TheTotemLands (prior to closing) and on Serenity Isles

WHAT: 2 "poses" from TTL ($8 each [edit, my email says $6 was sent for the one pose which was completed, but I believe the other two were considered $8 as the ref was $20, if I remember correctly]) and 3 poses on Serenity ($13) each; one owed TTL pose completed

WHEN: Commission began around June 2009


PROOF:
Original emails (TTL):
http://screencast.com/t/98PDW8uwbk7Q
http://screencast.com/t/SpFiEGVGxa8r


Commission on Serenity:
http://screencast.com/t/GZJ4p9OK5b
http://screencast.com/t/CxfB8Mzu
http://screencast.com/t/xCLRtCZpn3o
http://screencast.com/t/iHiYSMKO
http://screencast.com/t/SsxU1Umrnv
http://screencast.com/t/uAsmT3stm

Note asking for a refund:
http://screencast.com/t/7YVmwKOchp
http://screencast.com/t/aHgmSR1kfSgI(Her response)

Recent emails asking for an update/refund:
http://screencast.com/t/OBofSPV5phO
http://screencast.com/t/JBMwY5sc81v (Message was forwarded because I did not want to type it all out again)

Recent PM on wolfhome asking for information:
http://screencast.com/t/UtvhDTq7hFV
http://screencast.com/t/18kgPpRfLoQ2 (showing it was read, the pawprint goes from yellow to white when a message has been read)

Unfortunately I have no paypal screenshots of the transaction as the account I used to pay has since been closed, however I would assume that her replying she had received payment should be enough proof on my end.

EXPLAIN:
Back in 2009 I commissioned Inky for a refsheet of my character, however I changed it from a ref to 2 chat poses (and got a third pose later which was completed) and told her to keep the extra (as seen in first email) [also this proof is lost as TTL has been closed and I never thought to get screenshots of these PMs].  This art was never completed and I lost contact with her.  In 2011 she posted a topic to sell poses again on the chat SerenityIsles and I contacted her then about the owed art and was interested in getting some new commissions.  One of the owed poses was completed and that was all.  Later in the year I attempted to contact her as she had posted another topic selling custom chat poses.  At this point she said she would probably no longer do poses but could instead offer me another type of art in place of these poses.  Unfortunately, life got the best of me and I was unable to reply for a few more months, this is my fault completely and not a lack of communication on her part.  However, I emailed her again almost two weeks ago without response.  A few days after sending the most recent email I forwarded it again to her.  Tonight (4/24) I tried to send her a private message on another chatlands forum she was taking commissions on.  She has read the message but has yet to respond.

EDIT:
Finally got a response from her.  I sent her a second PM on the forum she is actively making poses on and got a response.

Private Messages:
http://screencast.com/t/yvRXGMQgPR6
http://www.screencast.com/t/GBZYreZBH0
http://www.screencast.com/t/gCZPexld
http://www.screencast.com/t/XEXp9xgvokjX
http://www.screencast.com/t/TuDQGNS4

For the record here is the previously mentioned email about being "banned":
http://www.screencast.com/t/sMfKfRKU

I will accept blame for the email not being sent immediately.  I had written it up and attempted to send it from my school wifi on my phone but must have left the wifi zone and caused it to wait in my outbox until I was back home and using stable wifi.  The choice to keep her from selling on Serenity was not only my choice, as stated in my replies, but the choice of several team members giving their input and opinions on the matter.  She had taken not only my money but the money of other users on Serenity and they were, luckily, refunded.

And I managed to dig out the transaction in my paypal history:
http://www.screencast.com/t/B3AlkprkD

And her topic on the Wolfhome forums actively selling poses:
http://screencast.com/t/rSMhD49Eb

I was honestly shocked that she was treating me so unprofessionally because of a grudge about a supposed ban on her account on the chat I manage.  Whether I had banned her or not I would hope that she would be able to treat me respectably and professionally as this is a business transaction between two people, when money is involved there should be no room for grudges.


Will keep this updated as it all unfolds!

Date: 2012-04-29 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweet-melon-bun.livejournal.com
Isn't there a way to get her banned from WH? I mean if you gather up all of this and show it to an admin isn't there something they can do? Not that they would, but you know.

Date: 2012-04-30 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gulletbutz.livejournal.com
This is now off topic and won't surprise me if it is frozen after I post this but oh well.

This isn't going unnoticed. Please don't assume WH admins aren't looking and it'd be nice if you didn't assumptions about what WH will or won't do in reaction to this situation :).

Date: 2012-04-30 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
I don't think this comment was made with negative intent. I had no idea that any WH mods watched this community, and I'm not sure anyone else did either!

(frozen)

Date: 2012-04-30 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweet-melon-bun.livejournal.com
I didn't assume anything. Though I won't put down what I originally had down because it'd just cause more trouble for me. /shrugs

Anyways, I'm out.
Edited Date: 2012-04-30 09:14 am (UTC)

(frozen)

Date: 2012-04-30 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com
It's rather clear that you have some sort of issue with WH's administration which is something best brought up privately, and while I appreciate that you said you were done, I am going to freeze this thread as a precaution against further off-topic negativity.

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